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hi everybody josh byerly here inside

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mission control houston i'm joined by my

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friend katie coleman again former well

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not for your current astronaut former

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space station crew member uh katie was

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really instrumental in the htv that

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happened last year with htv2 right it

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was the second one that flew up there so

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uh you know she's really an expert on

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how these things go up there on board

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the station we've been talking a lot

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about how the crew is getting ready to

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greet this thing tomorrow so we figured

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katie would come in here and actually

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tell us here on earth you know what it's

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like for the crew to work on these

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things so katie talk a little bit about

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you know it's the day before this thing

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gets up there the crew is going through

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quite a bit of onboard training kind of

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making sure that they've got all their

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procedures ready to go what was it like

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whenever you were up there doing this

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well you know this this thing is big

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yeah

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and basically and it launches in a

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rocket and you know comes up to meet the

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space station and then you know this and

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the space station are flying in parallel

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and uh and they're both going 17 500

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miles an hour together and so then the

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crew which was myself and paolo nespoli

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last year um are at the controls of the

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robotic arm and controlling that robotic

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arm now i'm going to be the arm they're

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going to go for this i don't know if you

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can see this grapple pin right here it's

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a little pin that thing is actually as

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big as my as my arm here huge so it's

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really really this whole thing is really

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big like the size of a school bus and so

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they're going to reach out with the

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robotic arm and grab this thing

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and the trick is um it would be easy if

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something happened if the space station

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could just move away

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but the space station is very big and

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hard to maneuver and so we have to have

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it really just perfect because if

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something goes wrong and we you know

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bang this thing and then it's going

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towards the space station we could all

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be in big trouble and so we do a lot of

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training you know to to model what you

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know as this thing is flying along it's

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actually keeping itself in a nice little

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box and you know just making sure that

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it stays in one place

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but before we grab it we want to make

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sure that it is not trying to go

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anywhere

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so we send a command called free drift

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meaning these little jets that help it

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control where it goes um we tell them

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they can't fire but if it's on its way

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to like you know going maybe this

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direction as it was kind of just doing

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its little circle here then it's going

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to be continuing so with the robotic arm

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we have to track that we have to be you

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know following the pin and so we

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actually practice you know what's much

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more exciting than the actual day we

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practice as if this thing is you know

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running away and we are trying to catch

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it and trying to make good decisions

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about what what if things happen when

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you know that are unexpected on the real

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the first one and the second one of this

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vehicle have behaved perfectly

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and and there it was with just a tiny

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little drift and we could reach out with

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a robotic arm grab this thing and then

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we're actually going to you know anchor

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this end onto the space station

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and then we'll open hatches

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that have been planned for experiments

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uh care packages probably for us you

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know a lot of different kinds of

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supplies but it's uh it's one of the

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most critical things that this this crew

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will do so it'll be a high point of

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their of their expedition so let's talk

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about you know we were talking about

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before we came on the air you guys

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trained for two and a half years i mean

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it's a long training program to get

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ready to fly up the station um

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you know how much do you train just for

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general robotics just kind of anything

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that could come up there versus

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something specific like htv or like we

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talked about before with is dragging i

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mean how much what's the difference

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between kind of overall training and

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really training for this real task that

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you're going to have to do well all of

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us train in robotics just the general

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principles of you know if i'm going to

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go and grab this with the arm you know

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right now you and i have this view right

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here and we can tell how close i am

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closer closer closer but if we only have

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this view we don't know how close we are

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so we're training all the time the

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principles of do you really know what

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you're doing do you really know where

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the arm is going and what are you going

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to do when it goes someplace different

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so we're always training those general

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things but with a situation that can be

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as dynamic as this one

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you need to be just physically and

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mentally proficient so that means

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practicing a lot you know the few weeks

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ahead of time and that means in the few

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years before that making sure that you

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really understand what you're doing and

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you have good hand controller skills you

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know where we're not only going this way

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but we can move the hand controller and

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move the arm this way but it also can

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move in pitch and yaw and all those

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things are kind of interconnected and we

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have to practice really

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looking at a picture you know a

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two-dimensional picture and

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understanding in three dimensions what

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this vehicle

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might be doing so there's a lot of

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different practice but some of that two

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and a half years is generic space

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station systems i mean i would say one

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of the frustrating parts of an astronaut

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job is just that

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we train a lot for things that are

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hopefully never going to happen you know

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what if this thing breaks on the space

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station and we can't get hold of mission

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control and they can't help us solve the

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problem so worst case scenario exactly

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so we train for a lot of those it's

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necessary it's part of the job and uh

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and when things almost happen

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it reminds you that you need that

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training yeah i mean we had some of

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those things on on board you know in the

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middle of the night an alarm rings and

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you know you race down to the computer

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all of you

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and figure out what it is and uh one

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time we were actually pretty excited

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because we thought we might actually get

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to go do a spacewalk but it turns out

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that you know nasa being nasa we already

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had a spare of that box already outside

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all we had to do was was uh you know

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change the power and the data path and

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everything was all set and we did not

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get that spacewalk so you know this is a

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pretty cool looking cargo craft i mean

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it takes up supplies but it's really i

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mean it's it's a it's a cool looking

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thing i mean just looking at the model

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is pretty neat so talk about whenever

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you saw it in person and also whenever

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you saw it in space well it's amazingly

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complicated i mean let me just tell you

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something that's not obvious is that

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there's there's a whole bunch of cargo

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station and this end is filled with

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cargo okay

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but then there's this and i can't take

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it out of this model but it's like a

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little cart like a little wagon so

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those things that the robotic arm can

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grab onto so along with the ground who's

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this time the ground is going to

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actually use the robotic arm to grab

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that grapple fixture bring that cart out

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we're going to hand this card which is

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carrying a bunch of really important

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spare parts for the space station we're

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robotic arm and so the japanese and so

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here if you hold that for a second

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that you're the space station robotic

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arm and now i'm going to then grab it

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with this robotic arm then you let go

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and then i have it so we do a handoff

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between two robotic arms on the space

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and aki hoshide will be flying the gem

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robotic arm joe acaba and suni williams

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we will be flying the space station

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robotic arm and so this this cart this

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spares on it will be sitting on the back

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of the japanese module and then that

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japanese arm will they'll park it there

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we'll reach down pick up some of these

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spare parts and put them in their places

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so there's there's a lot to this vehicle

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that it you know it looks like just one

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big craft but it's got a lot of

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different functions talk about the

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cupola you know whenever you're up here

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time and it's really kind of

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revolutionary that the crew gets to see

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that much you know that much around i

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mean whenever we see these vehicles fly

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don't really get a sense of the size of

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it and then also you're looking at these

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windows and i mean it's a really big

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space ground what is it like to actually

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see that in space is it does it get your

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attention well you know i told aki today

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we were telling him when and where he

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could see the htv because it you know

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today it's getting closer and closer and

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closer and i said remember aki objects

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in the mirror maybe larger that they

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appear

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they it looks really big i mean at first

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when you look down the first time you

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see it it's pretty exciting because you

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see this tiny little thing

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big earth

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tiny little htv and you think okay

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that's okay and then it gets closer and

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closer and closer and it is the size of

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a school bus it is giant and it is only

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about i don't know 15 feet away from the

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space station yeah when you actually

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it's big and it's and it's amazing and

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because there's no atmosphere out there

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i think it makes it seem that much

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bigger very high that much closer so i

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tried not to think about that when paulo

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and i i was on the controls of the

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robotic arm and paulo was telling me you

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know how close i was getting as i was

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as i was grappling so try not to think

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about that part and just you know do it

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like we practiced but it was really

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to see the the htv overland over japan

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new england where i'm from so it's just

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pretty neat to you know just see this

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pla this uh this supply ship actually

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have a life all over the world yeah

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what is it like to actually go inside of

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it i mean i know you're looking forward

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to the care packages and things like

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that but whenever you open up the

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the hatch is is it different from the

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other vehicles does it look different on

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the inside um it's uh it's like a big

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closet okay where it's got you know it's

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a big square closet and um it's almost

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like you have four four doors yeah and

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in back of each of those doors there's a

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lot of stuff but then strapped to the

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front of each of those doors is also a

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lot of stuff so in order to get to

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things you actually have to start it in

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the middle which when it gets there it's

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pretty packed so there's not much space

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there so you have to unstrap the stuff

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from the outside

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find a place to put it on the space

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station which fortunately the people

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here on the ground have thought about

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all that yeah and they've got a plan for

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almost this shell game of you know this

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gets here and this goes here and this

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gets put away there but uh

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one thing that was surprising i think to

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us was that

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it was confusing

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to go in there really because you know

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we're used to coming to you know an

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intersection we're in the space station

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we're going down the hallway we can go

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left and go into the gym we can go right

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and go into columbus and and then the

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hallway ends right there that's where

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the state the space shuttle would dock

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usually but now suddenly there's

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something down there yeah and and so we

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usually go in kind of head first and

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then somehow when you come out

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you're always facing a different way

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than you really expected to get your

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bearings and we find that at these

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intersections where there's something

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coming in this way this way this way and

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then one more way where it's not just

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sort of the horizontal axis of you know

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a left and a right and a straight ahead

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as soon as you put an upper down in

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there when you come out of there

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you have to almost look around in fact

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we label

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round here but the hatch itself is

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square and so we will label them port

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starboard you know aft so that we know

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where we're going and we don't suddenly

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start flying you know in the wrong

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direction

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we even saw that during shuttle missions

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whenever you had the multi-purpose

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logistics modules being attached i mean

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you're really adding a new room yeah i

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mean it's like if you added something

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under your house all of a sudden just in

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a day

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it kind of changes the layout a little

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bit so it's big yeah and it's it was

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kind of fun um

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uh we have conferences with our families

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once a week

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and we have computers that have video

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cameras on them so it's almost like um

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we could have a video conference but

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these computers are wireless so i got to

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actually take my family you know fly

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through into the htv i said okay so here

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we go okay take you know hold on and we

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went down into the htv and we looked

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around you know it's just really pretty

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neat to be able to take them in there

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and have that become

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three-dimensional to them as well well

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it looks so clean what i mean you know

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it's just one of you when we see these

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videos of these these new modules and

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these cargo craft everything's so

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pristine and organized and right it's

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awesome so even though we know that um

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something that we do

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uh as a matter of safety is um

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is

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we think that everything will be clean

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but you know it was packed on the ground

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everything had gravity to sort of sit it

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and and plus it had a pretty big shaking

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probably on the way up in that rocket

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things might have come loose and now

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they'd all be floating so usually when

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we first go into a module we'll actually

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wear goggles yeah and maybe a mask you

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know just in case there's little you

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know little small pieces of dust or

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metal you know could really harm your

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eyes and so we're usually well more

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careful the first time we go in until we

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establish that actually it really is

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clean inside so talk about the reverse

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process how you basically unbirth it and

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is it exactly the same just backwards is

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it easier is it harder what

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um

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i would say

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release

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in that you know so here it is attached

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to the space station we're going to

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grapple it by that grapple fixture with

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the robotic arm and you know that

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robotic arm doesn't look very big but

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really the end of it the end of it

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that's going to go on here that that

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thing is this big it's huge right so

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we're going to go in there we're going

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to grab this make sure we have a good

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hold everything's locked down and then

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we're going to release all the bolts

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that are holding into the space station

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and then just do this sort of big giant

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swing around and into the correct

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position to then

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let it go hopefully without giving it a

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push

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because you know we don't really want to

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give it a push we want to have it

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floating in exactly the right attitude

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and then it's got its own way to push

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which is these little jets you know

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where there's gases that combine to go

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you know and they can then move the htv

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in a safe trajectory away from the space

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station and of course there's folks that

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you know spend a lot of time doing math

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which is why we're trying to always you

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know convince uh our our kids and and

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their friends to study math and science

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and engineering is that everything we

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just talked about today has to do with

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math and engineering you know somebody

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had to figure these things out and the

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reason that somebody like me is safe up

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there is because of math

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it's well yeah there's a lot that goes

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into planning i mean we you know you

430
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talked about a while ago that it looks

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so

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kind of slow and easy while it's up

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there but both those spacecraft are

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going incredibly fast they both weigh

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a lot i don't even remember how many

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tons that

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was in a public affairs person let's say

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the station's a millionaire yeah six

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tons of cargo it's yeah something like

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that yeah it's it's a big really heavy

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spacecraft and you know and that's the

442
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thing with things that are weightless is

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even something this this big and this

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heavy

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given a push

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has now got its own momentum and it will

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continue going in that direction until

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it's got a force that opposes it so you

449
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really want to learn how to be gentle

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and uh and also you know we practice we

451
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practice a lot in a simulator and i'll

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tell you that was something that was

453
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kind of surprising to us up there is

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that i practice a lot in front of

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something that looks like a video game

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and i've practiced you know this part of

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it and you know looking at a cartoon

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picture of this and all those things and

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the reality of being in the cupola where

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windows surround you both here and up

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above

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was is very disconcerting

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is it to just have that um all that that

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you know

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that stuff in the way and in fact it was

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actually hard for us to remember i've

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talked about the judging of the distance

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so this was um

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this was paulo's job was to understand

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how to judge the distance now meanwhile

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we're going over the earth at you know a

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couple miles a second right and so the

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earth is moving

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and it was hard to judge this diff

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distance harder than in the simulator so

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we've now prepared other crews to know

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that you know looking at this thing is

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going to be a little bit difficult you

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know judging the distance because it's

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like when when you're sitting in your

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car and the car next to you moves yeah

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and you wonder which one is moving

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right so that made it a little bit

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difficult but just that view out the

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window is just astounding and it's going

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to be amazing i don't think anything can

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prepare you for that you know i mean you

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can you can see any kind of high

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definition imagery that we can ever

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invent here at nasa and it's probably

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not what you actually

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see with your own eyes while you're up

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there i would imagine it's it's

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beautiful and the cupola is a big change

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for us in that all the windows on the

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space station up until then were portals

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so they're just you know single circles

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like on a boat and you see the world go

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by very quickly and so if you're looking

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like for example for hawaii

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you you can see on our computer program

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that hawaii is coming and you know

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actually almost exactly when you'll see

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it but you're looking looking looking

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and boy you better take that picture

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right away

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but with a cupola where there's windows

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now all around and then also above our

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head you know i can look out and i can

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see hawaii coming and it's getting

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bigger and bigger and bigger and now

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it's over my head and i'm here i can

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turn around i can see it go and i have a

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couple minutes really to see hawaii and

515
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even just to see it in the context of

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you know taking magnified pictures where

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you really see what's going on in hawaii

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or you know just the

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its place on the whole earth and i and i

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love to take those sort of contextual

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pictures where you see the curve of the

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earth and you realize that you know this

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is what your country looks like yeah

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well it's got to be

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you know i can't imagine what it's like

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to be up there but but you also you've

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got to get a sense of how fast you're

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actually going to whenever you see

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hawaii coming at you and obviously

530
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you're on top of it and you're gone in a

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matter of just a few seconds you know

532
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the same thing with these vehicles you

533
00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:36,480
know they look so tiny and all of a

534
00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:37,680
sudden they're up

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00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:39,279
very close you're staying in your face

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00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:40,000
right

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you know and so getting back to what the

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crew is going to do tomorrow so it is

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sunny and aki and joe this is their big

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task tomorrow and

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uh

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aki and joe are going to be the the pair

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00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,639
on the robotic arm we always do these

544
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and these things in twos they back each

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other up joe will actually be at the

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controls aki would be calling distances

547
00:17:01,829 --> 00:17:00,560
for the grapple and then they'll switch

548
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:01,839
when they're actually going to install

549
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,160
this on the space station and then aki

550
00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,640
will be at the controls and joe will be

551
00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:08,640
calling distances and checking and

552
00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:10,480
making sure everything looks right and

553
00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:11,679
meanwhile

554
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:14,079
sunny is their third set of eyes because

555
00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:15,839
joe and aki are thinking about the

556
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,720
robotic arm and how it's doing and in

557
00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:21,360
with relationship to you know capturing

558
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:24,240
this htv uh which has a name actually

559
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:27,280
kunatori white stork exactly yeah it's

560
00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:30,320
kunatori iii yeah uh so kunis they're

561
00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:32,720
they're looking at kunatori well sunny

562
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:34,400
is actually in charge of understanding

563
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:36,799
what if kunatori has a problem what if

564
00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:39,600
suddenly um you know the computer says i

565
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,880
don't know all the things i'm supposed

566
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:42,559
to know this isn't safe

567
00:17:47,750 --> 00:17:45,360
and in that case that means that aki and

568
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:47,760
joe have to back the arm away and then

569
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:51,280
send a command to kunatori to retreat to

570
00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,200
bring itself a safe distance away which

571
00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:55,760
is either about 30 meters about 100 feet

572
00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:58,160
or even further depending on what the

573
00:18:01,510 --> 00:18:00,000
problem is it's very similar to spacex

574
00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:01,520
wasn't it they had the same ability to

575
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:02,720
basically send a command saying okay

576
00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,200
back off exactly you know in fact we're

577
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:07,600
trying to make all of these supply

578
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,840
vehicles that come have similar

579
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:11,600
procedures so that there's not something

580
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:14,320
special you have to do for one because

581
00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:16,080
all of us can get confused the crew can

582
00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,720
get confused uh mission control can get

583
00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:20,400
confused you want to make sure that you

584
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:21,919
know the procedures are pretty much the

585
00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:24,080
same for for all of them and and it

586
00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:25,679
makes sense actually because it's it's

587
00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:27,679
all about physics of you know when it

588
00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:29,679
approaches and how to grab it what might

589
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,720
be different is um for example htv is

590
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:33,919
much bigger

591
00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:36,640
than spacex than the dragon and so it's

592
00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:39,679
very much heavier and it has a slower

593
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:41,600
kind of dance that it does when it's

594
00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:44,080
keeping itself in one place whereas uh

595
00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:46,640
dragon had kind of larger jets but

596
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:48,080
smaller spurts and so it was pretty

597
00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:49,919
quick it could move quickly it's not

598
00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:51,360
it's still not going to go very far it

599
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,200
still has a box you know a little place

600
00:18:57,669 --> 00:18:55,440
that it has to stay and the crew knows

601
00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:57,679
it will but it's a question of when they

602
00:19:01,830 --> 00:19:00,720
say free drift dragon might be darting

603
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,840
you know it might have been going a

604
00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:03,520
little faster and be a little faster to

605
00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:05,760
track but we practiced that yeah

606
00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:06,960
well katie thanks for coming up here

607
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:07,919
it's always good to talk about this

608
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:09,200
stuff you know this stuff better than

609
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:12,240
than than any of us could possibly hear

610
00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:14,000
on this one brings me it brings me back

611
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:15,600
just to be here in mission control look

612
00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:17,120
at the i'll be cap coming for them

613
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:19,200
tomorrow so i'll be you know their coach

614
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:20,400
on the ground so to speak and

615
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:21,600
representing all the folks here in

616
00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:23,600
mission control but it certainly brings

617
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,760
me back it was pretty special days that

618
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,200
we had and it was certainly a highlight

619
00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:29,440
of the mission to you know capture

620
00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,840
kunatori too yeah and bring her onboard

621
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:33,200
the space station you'll have to hang on

622
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:35,200
to that model a little bit

623
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:36,640
i think i'll have to give it back it's a

624
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:38,480
pretty precious model we'll be on the

625
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:40,400
air tomorrow morning at 6 00 a.m central

626
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:41,679
time uh of course we'll have live

627
00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:43,919
coverage of htv3 and the arrival is joe

628
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:46,320
acaba and aki hoshide with sunny

629
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,520
williams helping

630
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:48,880
reach out and grab onto this cargo

631
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,160
vehicle and get it installed to the

632
00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,559
space station so again 6 am central time